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What disgusting disappointment. I feel I wasted my money, an audible but had to for it. This professor reminds me of so a lot of I knew at university & in person probably with tenure. He comes across as a pompous idiot. He keeps comparing what the interpretion at the time of the scrolls to the Bible & Torrrone both written, altered & condensed hundreds of years after these scrolls. If you're going to choose someone to do these lectures to record at least pick one without an arrow globe view & limited knowledge on the subject. Maybe some who has actually studied the scrolls, traveled to Egypt, Syria visited monasteries. If you wish to know read & listen to Greg Braden
If you wish to move beyond the easy introduction to the Dead Sea Scrolls, there's no better put to go than this course from The Amazing Courses. The professor is personable and enjoyable to listen to. Some of the material is quite complicated, but I think he does a amazing job simplifying it so the average layperson can grasp the significance of it all. If you're someone who likes to learn and wants to expand your understanding of what William Albright said was the greatest manuscript discovery of modern times, then this DVD set is for you.
I bought my copy at the Audible website. Perfect series of lectures that give the background important to understand how the Dead Sea Scrolls and these Essenes fit into the Second Temple Period in late antiquity. The Audible www service also contains a pdf file that has material to be read with each lecture. So far, I'm two for two as far as The Amazing Courses are concerned. When this course is concluded, I intend to more of them. The is right on Audible.
This is truly a remarkable work! Easily, one of the most interesting, thought provoking and informative books I have ever read. The thoughts and opinions of the author are very well organized, explained and supported with basic sources. Clearly, this book has been years in the making; the author appears to have spent an enormous amount of time accumulating data and organizing his thoughts about the best method to approach and explain the topic matter. This is a must read for all Christians, but particularly Catholic Christians.On a latest trip to the Holy Land our tour group visited the remains of an Essene community near the Dead Sea at Qumran. We received a slight introduction as to who the Essenes where, but at other points of the tour, particularly in Jerusalem, a mysterious connection between the Essenes and Jesus, Mary, John the Baptist and other characters in the Fresh Testament began to unfold. Our tour tutorial never went into much detail, but for the critical retreatant, it was obvious that there was a story that the tour tutorial never fully explained. Upon returning home, I began to read anything I could search about the Essenes and their connection to Jesus and the early Christian community. This book did a phenomenal job assimilating everything I had read (and then some) into one coherent text. I am so very much indebted to the author for this work. He has answered a lot of of my questions about the Essenes and the early Christians and given much help to a lot of of my theological beliefs.
Dr Bergsma has a attractive bonus of taking complex topics and making them understandable to non-PhDs like me. I’ll be forever grateful for his work here on Jesus and the Dead Sea Scrolls. The possible link between John the Baptist, John the Apostle, Tag the Evangelist , Joseph /Mary and the Essenes is fascinating to me. I also appreciate the differences between Essene theology and early Christianity. It was a marvelous and simple read.
Homilists are told to prepare with the gospels in one hand and the newspaper in the other. The Dead Sea scrolls may be the newspaper that influenced how the gospels were heard. Dr. Bergsma helps me to read the Fresh Testament with an ear toward the teaching of the Dead Sea sectaries and search points of commonality that reinforce how this fresh teaching may have been heard.
An necessary book for everyone. Well written with solid, informed facts and opinions. An perfect book that everyone should read. It is so impressively well written and well researched that it shouldn’t be ignored and cannot be dismissed!
The considerable amount of parallels between the lexicology of the DSS and the Gospels is not a scoop, but the author presents the case in a clear method for fresh readers interested in the subject without departing from the basics of Christian st people have heard about the DSS but have only a very vague, if any idea about their contents. The frequent affirmation that they are mainly significant for Old Testament studies has to be revised. Bergsma is proof to that.I bought this book on the claim of continuity between DSS and Gospels. This is unusual among scholars who usually argue for just a few borrowings and conversions from Essenes to the fresh faith in the early thirties. Bergsma’s book shows that there is obviously much more in the DSS that enlighten earliest Christianity than commonly accepted. Not only the vocabulary but also the priestly organization and rituals have a lot in e parallels between an Essene benediction and Christ’s Latest Supper are neatly addressed. We search a thanksgiving ritual in the Community Rules where the blessings are under the authority of the founder of the DSS community and also in the later Messianic Rules where the holy repast is under messianic supervision, just as in the Gospels.I also have a few negative judgments on this book.- I will not follow the author when he claims that using the same ‘catch words’ indicates that all the texts, as the Ephesian Gospel of John and the infancy and childhood narratives were composed at the same very early time.- Bergsma accepts that the texts were written by the announced authors, canceling de facto the second-century evolution and secondary influence on the foundational texts. He seems to wish people to believe that everything occurred early, and within a Judean environment.- Looking for a background to the cultic Eucharist, here again he explores Judean antecedents. The absence of any such cultic ritual in the Scrolls, no antecedents here has to admit a disappointed Bergsma, leads him to search a method out, accepting he has no proof other than efficiency to coalesce disparate information, that I will leave his readers to discover. For a various point of view—the Eucharistic mystery cult is completely out of tune within Judean practices where consuming blood is vigorously condemned—readers can take a look online at ‘The Latest Supper covered Three Centuries of Confrontations.’ ()- I would also like his readers to reflect on the religious figure of a messiah for the end of days. Such Messiahs are a heavenly reincarnation of past historical prophets, as Elijah or the Master of the DSS community. The historicity of a Messiah on earth to announce time’s end is therefore indirect, the mental icon borrowing facts, reputation and teachings from the sometimes long ago extinct earthly model. Bergsma is certain that the lexicology and organization of the DSS’ community has been transferred to the Gospels but omits to see the same with the messianic speculations. Readers should be able to begin sensing the connections between messiah Jesus, the Scroll’s prophetic Master, and the messianic interrogations professed after his death around 65 BCE, condemned by the Jerusalem authorities to ‘hang on a tree.’ Readers interested in the more disturbing implications of continuity between DSS lexicology, messiahs and Christianity, can access on-line my short paper: ‘A brief eye-opening introduction to Nascent Christianity’ ().Although the author has certainly not taken the continuity up to the point I was curious about,his book is nevertheless a worthwhile step for the a lot of into the implications of the DSS for Christianity.
Dr. Bergsma is a convert to the Catholic faith who did his graduate work in Old Testament with a concentration in the Dead Sea Scrolls. He writes with erudition and clarity about the meaning of the scrolls and how they support us understand Christian origins. There has been an poor amount of wild speculation and misrepresentation about the scrolls. It is a PLEASURE to have such an accessible and sober evaluation of the true significance of these 1st Century documents in the light of the NT and subsequent Church History.What Dr. Bergsma shows is that the Dead Sea Scrolls bear witness to the eschatological expectations of the Qumran sect of Essenes ad that these expectations anticipated several developments in the early Church that 19th Century Protestant minimalists (and their more latest descendants) considered to be "Hellenistic corruptions" that had crept into the Church in the 2nd through the 4th Century. Studying the Scrolls shows that celibacy, ascetic practices, and the idea that the Fresh Covenant promised in Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel was imminent (among other ideas) were clearly show in the century or so before Jesus. There is also plenty of circumstantial evidence that the Essenes helped to inspire these ideas in the minds of Jesus and a lot of of his disciples. Textual studies in the Scrolls and the NT seem to present some direct relationship between the Essene sectaries and the nascent Christian movement. Dr. Bergsma makes it clear that the Essenes were not Christians nor were the Christians Essenes, but the thoroughly Jewish movement of Essenism clearly anticipated and supported core ideas and practices that a lot of had previously considered to be uniquely Christian and the effect of pagan influence. We now know that in truth it was pre-Christian Judaism and its vision of the fresh Messianic Age that was the inspiration for these is no wonder that the Protestants wanted to eliminate from the Biblical Canon any material from the 400 years prior to the time of Christ. They preferred a more ancient and simplistic Judaism as the forerunner of "Christianity" instead of the more developed and speculative forms that existed at the time of Jesus and which Our Lord's own ministry utilized in his teachings in the Sermon on the Mount/Plain. These same ideas informed St. Paul, St. James, and St. John in their contributions to the e work of scholars such as James Vanderkam, Larry Hurtado, Margaret Barker, James Charlesworth, Charles Geischen, and N. T. Wright (all Protestants) helps to fill out the huge picture of the Jewish globe and its religion around the time of the coming of Christ. Dr. Bergsma's contribution is a worthy and well written contribution to the modern studies of Christian origins.I cannot recommend this book more highly. Anyone interested in Catholic apologetics needs to read this book!Arthur C. Sippo MD, MPH
Bergsma digs into the what scholars have learned from the Scrolls since they were found, and detects echoes of the Qumran community in early Christianity, so a lot of echoes that it brings up the chance of actual ties, perhaps between John the Baptist and seems wonderful now, but some fifty-100 years ago scholars argued the Infancy Narratives were fictional. Then the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered. "It is now clear that Luke was using Jewish sources...terms used in the Magnificat and Benedictus only create sense in Hebrew" .The Gospel most impacted by the info contained in the Scrolls has been John, "Bultmann regarded all the Gospels as fictional—'mythology' was his favorite term—and especially the Gospel of John." Once the Scrolls were found, it was clear that the dualism expressed in John had clear echoes in the Scrolls, as did much of the language and religious concepts. "Outside of the Scrolls, the term “Spirit of Truth” occurs only in the Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs".Also, the Scrolls appeared to expect not one, but "two Messiahs, a priestly one from the line of Aaron and a royal one from the line of David, ...a 'diarchic messianism'...seems to have been the dominant expectation at Qumran," an necessary discovery for en there is John the Baptist. Bergsma argues there is enough evidence to suggest that the "Baptist was formed in the community at Qumran. This scenario would explain why—as we shall soon see—the Gospel of John exhibits the strongest parallels to the Dead Sea Scrolls".Bergsma argues that "every detail of his life and preaching has a possible Qumran affinity." It's necessary to note that John the Baptist "would have been baptizing as small as a half day’s walk from Qumran". In fact, "John, Banus, and the Qumranites were all living in the same area, practicing water washing and celibacy." It's simple to speculate that there could therefore be ties, at least in religious ideas common to the area.We know John and Banus were living off the land in the desert area, eating locusts and wild honey. The Scrolls have created it clear that any member of the community at Qumran had to swear never to eat meal prepared outside of the community. If they were expelled, that vow might guarantee they would die of starvation, unless a loophole could be found around the vow. It may be that Banus and John were therefore eating meal that no human hands had prepared for a meal, such as honey and locusts, because they had left the community, or been expelled, yet they would not break their is is all fascinating me of the language of the Scrolls further enlightens the meaning of words in the Gospels. During the Feast of Tabernacles priests "at the climax of the feast they poured out water on the main altar to make the river flowing from the Temple promised by Ezekiel." (Ezek 47). The sacrificial animals meant huge amounts of blood, and buckets of water to [email protected]#$%! away, would send water and blood gushing "out of the side of the Temple Mount...Ancient Jews would recognize that the flow of blood and water marked the Temple."But in Christianity "Jesus is the fresh “Temple of a Man,” so on the latest day of the feast, when they poured out the water on the altar to create Ezekiel’s river, Jesus stands up and declares, “If anyone thirst, allow him come to me; and allow him drink who believes in me. As the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart shall flow rivers of living water’ . Significantly, later, when Jesus was crucified, a soldier pierced his side, and "it lets forth a fountain of blood and water".Much recommended.
This is nowhere near the complete Dead Sea scrolls, and I'm not referring to the portions that are absent due to the original text being damaged and unreadable, I'm talking about entire sections that exist in English but for some reason are not included in this "complete" collection. Firstly, it only includes the non-biblical Dead Sea scrolls but even those suffer a painful abridgement. For example, the Genesis Apocryphon does not contain any text from columns 3, 4, 5, 8, 9 or 10 (and go figure I was specifically needing column 5). The introduction even admits that they exist and have even been translated and is kind enough to provide info on where to look if you want to read them. Kind, yes, but insulting given the book's title and $22 mark.If this were called "Abridged Portions of Selected Dead Sea Scrolls in English" I would respect it as that would be a wonderfully accurate title, but we all know that it would not nearly as well as it has if it had been labeled honestly. This blatant marketing deception fueled by greed is probably to be placed upon Penguin Classics and not the late Geza Vermes, who is an exceptional biblical scholar.
If you wish the complete Dead Sea scrolls in English EXCEPT the Biblical texts like the Isaiah scroll or the amazing psalm scroll, then this is for you. If you actually wish the Biblical texts you won't search much. I hate it when authors give their books deceptive titles like this. His title is hogwash. I'd like to use a much stronger term or two, but then the review would not be accepted.
Maybe it's because this book is dated, that it feels like religious propaganda, which is really what the Fresh Age is turning out to be. A repackaging of God for a computer age audience. I should have known that with a name like Valiant Thor, that there would be some serious ego-issues going on with the narrator. The title says it all, sips of truth, like maybe the a sentence or two might be the truth. I'm disappointed, though if I'd read this 30 years ago, I might have been amazed, now I'm just tired.
I'm taking an upper level history course on Dead Sea Scrolls, and this is one of my two texts for the class. I'm very impressed with the accuracy of translation and the writing competency of the author. It is clearly written and documents all of the non-Biblical writings found in the Dead Sea sea scrolls.When I first got the book, I was disappointed that the books of the Bible and Torah had been omitted from the work, but I soon learned in class that these were readily available in (drumroll, please) the Bible and the Torah. The significance of the scrolls is that they confirm the accuracy of the already-known but younger copies of these much-read and loved works. Although the scrolls are over a thousand years older than any of the previously known extant writings, they are almost identical to the newer copies!The scrolls included in this book are peshars, midrashes and targums (commentaries on Biblical books such as Nahum and Habakkuk); a Community Rule for the sect which apparently lived at Qumran, a settlement near the caves where the scrolls were found; eschatological writings regarding the end of times (such as the Battle Scroll); and directives to the Leader of the sect which presided over the congregation. Very, very interesting window on sectarian e only complaint I have--and it's probably one born of ignorance--is that it is somewhat difficult to search specific documents by using the indices at the end of the book. I'm never sure I've completed a reading assignment because of the cluttered method that the manuscripts are referenced. But when I consider how a lot of thousands of fragments were organized and of how a lot of copies of the same text were found in 11 various caves, it's no wonder the index is so complex. Some people use this book to study only ONE of the copies of a document. So all of the works must be referenced and cross-referenced in the index--not just the best preserved of the wise, in reading the translations of the manuscripts, the brackets and parentheses, used in the middle of words and sentences to distinguish between texts from various caves, are rather distracting because they aren't utilized in the manner that I'm accustomed to in reading and writing. It takes a small getting used to. But it is a very effective means for the writer to pull together a fragment of a document from one cave to fill in missing text from another copy of the same document found in another cave.I don't know if any of that even makes sense. This is a book which really needs a companion text, such as James VanderKam's The Dead Sea Scrolls Today. Unless you already know the history of the sect and how the scrolls were discovered, the manuscripts alone are fairly meaningless to the modern was a daunting task, assembling the fragments of the scrolls and cataloging all of the documents found in those caves. To organize all of that info into one cohesive anthology and then translate it from Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek into English and other languages is nothing short of heroic. Vermes is a brilliant man indeed.
Horribly cheaply printed book. Paper us painfully yhin, type is excessibly small. I never would have purchased had I realized how lacking. Missing all biblical books. Title should be incomplete book. Returning.
The introduction by Geza Vermes makes this book worth the in and of itself. But the actual translation is also fantastic. It's concise and stays very real to the tone of religious Hebrew and Aramaic without being slavishly word-for-word which would render it impossible to read. Really useful for anyone studying Torah, early Christianity, or religion in general.
This edition has several flaws. 1.) At just 5" x 8", the format is too little for a volume this size, with the text fine and bunched together. The paper is cheap, almost like newspaper, and there is not enough visual separation between the various sections. In short, the book is not physically pleasurable to read or hold. 2.) As other reviewers have noted, the material is in no sense "complete." On the other hand, it contains a lot that a general reader would not search helpful (what amounts to scraps of material useful only to an academic or scholar). 3.) Finally, the supporting material I found to be not at all helpful. The introduction is uninspired, rehashing mainstream academic consensus on the "Essenes." So the framework for understanding and appreciating these ancient texts is sadly lacking. The reader most happy with this book may well be the author himself, who seems very proud of his academic achievement.
The Dead Sea Scrolls? What can I say about them?In a lot of parts, they are the words of YHWH as expressed by man. In a lot of parts they are the Torah. So as a believer of God, I must reserve a certain awe, a certain respect. In the words of the translator of the Dead Sea Scrolls. An unbeliever will not understand this nor will they appreciate these scrolls.O my God, hast sealed them all and there is none to begin (them) … Does one measure by the hollow of a human hand the waters of the amazing (ocean)? Are [the heavens estimated by the span (of fingers)? In one third (of a measure)] can any include the dust of the earth, and weigh the mountains in a balance, or the hills in scal[es]? Man did not create these. How can he measure the spirit of [God]? (Fragment 30 of the 511th scroll of the 4th Cave 4Q511 Fr 30)What we have are the religious library of the Essene Jews occupying a religious or scholarly town of Qumran. These works were hidden in at least 11 caves in the vicinity of Qumran. So there are original copies of the Bible as known by the Jews in all of the three centuries before Christ, commentaries, peshers (interpretations there of,) and apochrophial works. These have been translated from Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek into English. Ostensibly, they were hidden to avoid there destruction by the Kittims: the Romans. There is a close relationship of Qumran to the Zealots of is is not simple reading, no more easier than the Bible today. Much of the works are fragmentary as the scrolls have deteriorated with age and subsequent treatments. And yet the devotions of the Jews at the time of Christ has become vivid. But, if you are interested in what Jewry was like during the times of Jesus (Jesus was a Jew,) then there is no better put to study than these scrolls!What you should gain arethe importance of the Covenants!the importance of the distinction between clean and uncleanthe importance and rituals of sacrificethe and rankings of the populace with respect to the religionthe interpretations of the Torah (the first five books of the Bible)the respect for the prophetsMuch of this, perhaps by the translations, is still hidden even from a scholarly reader. But one has a fresh perspective of the times of Christ from these scrolls.
Allow me begin by saying that I only gave it 4 stars because it is a long and sometimes difficult read. It's fascinating items though. The modern bible has been edited and interpreted in so a lot of various ways, that it barely resembles the original script. This is the original - the origin of the bible - and all the religious concepts, ancient alien theories and spiritual practices create much more sense when you understand the seeds they grew from. It will truly expand both your mind and spiritual philosophies, regardless of what you believe in.
I had a copy of this back in 2001 and it got lost when I moved. To say this is a bombshell is understatement in extremis. Eisenman’s very lucid reconstruction of the Early Church demolishes the propaganda that Paul and his followers made in to hide his murder of James - Jesus’ brother - and how he managed to hoodwink all of subsequent history into believing a whole series of lies. You need an heroic amount of patience to plow through this book because it has a lot of linguistic and historical analysis in it that is normally left for scholarly readers - but it is quite do-able and understandable. If the origins of Christianity as “explained” by the Church, or as laid out in the Fresh Testament seems a small fishy to you, as it does to most smart moderns, this book is a must read.
I've finally gotten around to reading this whole "James brother of Jesus" book.A couple of things that comes to mind are that Mr Eisenman describes much the same items from every linguistic angle he can obtain his hands on. He finds that there's a lot of name change-ups(he references one clear statement to the result in the fresh testament; the rest he makes logical arguements for all these name changeups). And uses these decodings to test to figure out who said what, where and when. Another general point is how he spends a lot of time defining things. And he does so historically. I think a lot of people's patience with this book are stretched by roughout, he's using lots of external literature to analyse even the most mundane passages(the bible midrashes lots of the most mundane items anyways; so, I don't see how people can complain!). Outside of all these logical deductions to decode peoples names, he shows how different herodians and a Queen of Helen are in the Fresh Testament. He repeats these appearances with ever more info as you go through the book. Bottom line, Jesus Christ is for the most part an overwriting for James the Just. One is tempted to argue that James the Just is the historical Jesus. But, nothing can be concluded. The appearences of different herodians and their social-political standings with the Romans are always a tease. Nothing much can ever be proved on who wrote what. It's almost tempting to argue that Paul wrote the Gospel of Mark. I just have a couple of things to argue about whether Jesus Christ ever existed.James is the brother of Jesus Christ. Now, Robert points out that 'brother' can be taken as a kind of slang for 'fellow' or belonging to a club. Eisenman never wants to take this seriously; around pages 400, he notes that Origin more or less says exactly this! One could argue that Origin's statement to the result is late in the game; but, look who's saying that James the Just is brother of Jesus Christ! Paul. Nobody else! Jesus Christ is not mentioned in the dead sea scrolls! And, what does the dead sea scrolls say of Paul? That he's a lier! What do the Jews say about Jesus Christ? That he never existed!I've argued to some that Paul is Josephus. I posted this here on amazon "James Brother of Jesus" review as well. Then, I erased it cause there's a few problems. A major weird piece of evidence that Paul is Josephus is that Paul considers an Epiphroditus to be an Apostle of Jesus Christ. Epiphroditus is also Paul's traveling companion. Epiproditus is also Josephus best mate when he turns roman and gets the roman imperial name "Flavius". But, this isn't much. Other things I noted was the correspondence between the dead sea scrolls, Pauline epistles, and Josephus's works which is much of what Eisenman writes up here. How does Josephus have such a photographic memory? Eisenam just says, "oh, he's a really intelligent guy!" Me? Seems to me that Josephus has this phenomenal memory of the happenings of James the Just because he's the one who killed him! Who else can obtain so close to James the Just? If not a person who was in with the Essenes at one time? Josephus as Eisenman stresses hates these messianic jews and believes they are the reason for his people's troubles. Josephus was more than willing to chop the throats of his fellow military radicals when he miraculously gets the right staw of who's going to chop each others throats and then commit suicide. Josephus must have been blown away that he plucked the right staw! I seem to recall more correspondences between the life of Josephus and his acc of Paul and James the Just. But, all that is mere correspondence; but, now, I've found this,"Josephus: Shipwrecked on voyage to Rome"But when I was in the twenty-sixth year of my age, it happened that I took a voyage to Rome ... At the time when Felix was procurator of Judea there were certain priests of my acquaintance ... whom on a little and trifling occasion he had place into bonds, and sent to Rome to plead their cause before Caesar ...Accordingly I came to Rome, though it were through a amazing number of hazards by sea; for as ourship was drowned in the Adriatic Sea, we that were in it, being about six hundred in number, swam for our lives all the night; when, upon the first appearance of the day, and upon our sight of a ship of Cyrene, I and some others, eighty in all, by God's providence, prevented the rest, and were taken up into the other ship.And when I had thus escaped, and was come to Dieearchia, which the Italians call Puteoli."- Josephus, Life,3St Paul: "Shipwrecked on voyage to Rome""Felix, willing to present the Jews a pleasure, left Paul bound." - Acts 24.27."They talked between themselves, saying, This man doeth nothing worthy of death or of bonds. - Acts 26.31."It was determined that we should sail into Italy ... And entering into a ship of Adramyttium ... we came to Myra ... And there the centurion found a ship of Alexandria sailing into Italy ... they sailed close by Crete. But not long after there arose versus it a tempestuous wind ... no little tempest lay on us ... But when the fourteenth night was come, as we were driven up and down in Adria ... And falling into a put where two seas met, they ran the ship aground; and the forepart stuck fast, and remained unmovable, but the hinder part was broken with the violence of the e centurion ... commanded that they which could swim should cast themselves first into the sea, and obtain to land. And the rest, some on boards, and some on broken pieces of the ship. And so it came to pass, that they escaped all safe to land. And after three months we departed in a ship of Alexandria ...And landing at Syracuse ... and came to Rhegium: and after one day the south wind blew, and we came the next day to Puteoli."- Acts 27,28"Some have suggested that Josephus wrote the Gospel of Mark. I don't. Josephus would never have created the same linguistic and palistinian geography mistakes. He didn't write the pauline epistles either. Clearly whoever wrote those works were not of the same mind as the scientific Josephus. I would point to Clement of Rome and Alexandria and even others later. Those characters are pointed out by Eisenman as well to decode names and all the herodians in the Gospel of Tag and in the Pauline epistles- the first christians in Antioch were herodians as Eisenman points out. In my mind, he doesn't have to. There is no report of the death of Josephus - just that of his best mate Epiphoditus by Domitian. I'm figuring that Josephus just changed names and disappeared in the roman empire. Who knows where he went for protection. The Pauline epistles were clearly a recasting of Josephus's works as James the Just was written out of history as well. That is enough to explain why the Pauline epistles and the Josephus works are clearly two various e Paul hero is probably a lot of various characters. But, I think with the Epiphroditus reference in Phillipines 2:4 I do believe and the above Acts and Life of Josephus clearly shows that part of the write up of the Pauline Epistles is to integrate Josephus in the Christian fabrication to create one religion, one ring to rule them all, and to pacify the messianic jews as Josephus wished to. It's part honoring him and because Josephus partly started it with his ascribing to Titus as the annointed one to the Jews to pacify them.A further point about this Josephus/Paul correspondence; with the above correspondence between Josephus's boat sinking and paul's, well, if so, then Paul isn't a Herodian. This calls into question Mr Eisenman's "James Brother of Jesus". At least, it needs a rethink.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I found a remarkable book called "Daniel to Paul." I was reading "Who wrote the Gospels" by a Helm; it's o.k. It was showing the connections between the book of Daniel to the Gospel of Tag which is perhaps one reason why this book caught my eye at Grossmont college library. Pointing out Grossmont college library is key here. When I tried to look this book up on amazon and then googling it, I found it nowhere in sight! I found that this Daniel to Paul book, dated to 1960s says much the same items as Robert Eisenman's "James Brother of Jesus"! Only, it doesn't have Paul as a herodian, or that Jesus Christ is a hellenistic sungod overwright for James the Just. It does mention much of what Robert Eisenman says about James the Just being the real head of the Judaic-christian church and not Peter though!
This is a must have for any serious student of Scripture. Understanding the culture of the first century is imperative for understand Scripture. Loads of info and very helpful in understanding the culture and the man!
1000 pages is awfully long. He is very thorough but hardly a mention of James considering the number of pages...at least so far..I haven't finished it yet I figure it will take the rest of the year; it is a very dense book tho well written and as I say thorough...a small too much for my reading pleasure. I don't need all the background but I will slog through...
This book is essential reading for anyone interested in the historical Jesus. The lost story of James the Just is the most necessary development of our time in this field, and Eisenman is the herald sounding the horn of its at said, he makes it extremely difficult to understand. Even for readers who have a amazing working knowledge of his source material (what you need to have if you're going to obtain anything out of this book), reading "James the Brother of Jesus" is like untying a knotted kite string. You'll have to re-read passages, take lots of notes, and be very patient. The book is wholly lacking in huge scale organization and, worst of all, especially when discussing the ambiguity of put and people names, it seems as if Eisenman is actively trying to confuse.Having read it, you will know much more, but someone needs to write a follow-up that is actually readable.
This book is great. I have been looking for a book that sets out what the Messianic Jews believed in the first century. This told me. Prof. Eisenman relates the language and happenings found in the Dead Sea Scrolls (DSS) to those found in Josephus, the Fresh Testament and the early Christian Apologists to present the conflicts between Jewish Christianity and Pauline Christianity set out in Paul's Epistles and covered up in Acts. The DSS and some noncanonical Church writings from the 2nd-4th centuries present the Jerusalem Church's side of the conflict and the deft method Paul dismisses their arguments. The only draw back for me is that Prof. Eisenman writes long complicated sentences, and the reading is slow going in to understand what he is saying.
Theology and bibical study has a tradition of tough-mindedness and intellectual rigor that makes extreme demands on the modern reader who has grown up with Sesame Road and Chicken-Soup For The Lazy. Eisenman cuts the reader no is volume should be read with the understanding that any commentary on the Dead-Sea Scrolls published more than perhaps 5 years ago was warped into meaninglessness by the pious orthodoxy of the guardians of those scrolls. Any reader of the King James ver of the Fresh Testement must acknowledge that James was the brother of Jesus and the designated leader of the church after Jesus departed the scene. Orthodoxy has never explained how the theology of Paul came to dominate the Christian tradition and the small letter of James is taken with such a huge grain of salt. Eisenman is a giant step in that direction and deserves a respectful counter-argument from the orthodox traditionJohn P. Meier's 2 vol work "A Marginal Jew: Rethinking the Historical Jesus" is a amazing supplement to Eisenman. Meier has more extensive footnotes with amazing expanding remarks on Josephus where Eisenman only cites his sources. Eisenman makes amazing use of "the normal canons of historical argument and literary analysis" particulary as they have developed in redaction criticism of the bible. The reader need not have a degree in bible studies to slog through this difficult intellectual swamp. But the reader will drown if they depend on a traditional Christian fundamentalist life jacket to hold their faith afloat while making this journey.
This is a amazing explanation of early church history. It examines the biblical and historic Jesus. It develops the succession from Jesus to James to Peter. It studies the different religious groups of Judaism and first century Christianity such as: Pharisees, Saducees, Essenes, Ebionites, Nazoreans, Paulists, etc. It is a amazing bool for a serious study of pre-Constantine Christianity and post-Temple at said, it is a difficult read. Eisenman is a amazing scholar, but not a amazing presenter. He is repetitious and rambling. The book would be improved by organizing and editing. It could be reduced to 300 pages without losing content. After the 10th mention of James wearing linen as opposed to wool, not bathing, and not oiling himself, we obtain the point... Some tables of comparison of Qumran, Acts, Eusebus, Paul, and Josephus would serve. A side by side parse in a table is better for the purpose than rambling e book suffers from the same faults as the bible. It lacks organization and does include a wealth of info and is worth the effort to struggle through it.I would recommend starting with Ehrman, Mack, or Stourton, to obtain you primed before tackling Eisenman.
For the right reader this will be an perfect book. It is largely historical context, particularly discussing a number of explorers and travelers who ventured there over a number of centuries, but particularly in the 1800s. There's a fair amount of consideration of the river and sea as a resource divided among nations (the Dead Sea between Israel and Jordan, the river among Syria, Israel and Jordan, with the Palestinians as a sort of would-be participant). Both river and sea form part of borders, and the Jordan is of considerable religious significance to Christians and Muslims. There's also considerable discussion of economics, how the water has been divided and how the extractive industry based on Dead Sea minerals got started. There is a small on ecosystems and environment and rather more on the primary geology (which is rather unusual). The book ends with Kreiger mentioning some of her own experiences with the sea, some of her concerns and a rather surprising optimism on the chance of Israel, Jordan and the Palestinian state cooperating on managing the river--which she sees in some danger of extinction because of drawdowns for r their amazing significance, the river and sea are surprisingly small. The Dead Sea is essentially a sizable lake, at 233 square miles (I just checked it). The Sea of Galilee is 64 square miles and the length of the River Jordan is 156 miles (it's worth remembering that Israel is not much bigger than the state of Hawai'i). The Dead Sea has over time increased and decreased in volume and gone up and down in level, and is currently decreasing in size due to about 95% of the Jordan's water, all of which historically entered the sea, is now drawn off. According to Krieger, the Dead Sea has shrunk by a third in the latest fifty eiger plainly loves this area, and at times the book is eloquent about it, especially the colors. It's arid, hot and difficult terrain, and the extreme saltiness of the Dead Sea makes it of use in only certain ways--extracting salts from the water, and the medical tourist trade (which draws people because of presumed medicinal value of bathing in the water).The chapters can be read in whole or according to the reader's interest. Chapter 1 discusses early travelers, Chapter 2 later travelers, especially the 1800s. Chapter 3 delves into the shores and other locations around the sea. Chapter 4, "the life of a lake" is the most detailed about the sea's origin and form (it's only 11,000 years old). Chapter 5 info the life and impact of a Jewish Russian immigrant who set up the extraction industry based on salts in the water. Chapter 6. "A Lake Divided," covers the situation of the sea being divided between two antagonistic nations. Chapter 7 thoroughly covers the problems of the Jordan being a water source in a water-starved region. Chapter 8 discusses reclamation and the future. The notes and sources section is quite good.
I thought this book was beautifully written. And the author demonstrates and encyclopedic knowledge of her topic matter, which is the Dead Sea. Kreiger is particuarly amazing at detailing the a lot of expeditions created in the 19th century to test to respond age-old questions about the popular lake – for instance, how far below sea level does it lie? What happened to the ancient cities once bordering its shores and that seem to have completely vanished? Does it have any underground outlet to the Red Sea?I would highly recommend the book to anyone interested in the geographical and cultural history of the Holy Land – and particularly to people who like to read about pioneering expeditions in extremely harsh environments
overall. amazing gameplay, amazing graphics, fun mechanics. that said, short and simple. the reason for the two stars only. unless you are willing to spend untold and uncountable hours of time or, the android game makers preference, of untold told amounts of 20 dollar donations. you cannot advance. at all. ever. you must complete quests to obtain in android game money, to packs, to advance your decks. you can only complete those quests by winning vs fights, versus other players. no donation, 1 victory in 10.
Is a amazing card game, and the characters on cards are unique. Only fail is that sometimes it doesn't let you to enter your acc and you loose all your progress in game. Plus micro transaction bs. Still enjoyable and you can pass through stages if you got the time and patience to with it.
The fact that you only obtain 1 Act in quest mode is absolutely Disgusting furthermore all thats left to do after finishing the only Act and the only puzzles you give is very little. Some cards can only be aquired if you have the corresponding acts begin which is complete garbage when you have pawned all your epics and rares to craft another legendary only to search that unless you have purchased the acts you cant craft them!.
why the files take so long to install i have android games from gameloft and ea what have over 600mb-2096 mb each and take at 10-30 minute to downlod please uprade your servers power ( for quick answer ) 308mb is taking to long and insted off showing the updated number off files present the speed off downloding or the progres in amout of data ...
I'd give it a five if the battling mechanics where different. swiping seems like it be a better option over the clicking and holding . and maybe 2 fingers to block . other then that so far it looks really good. I love skyrim alot . I'd like to see it excell on mobile 🖤🖤
Most fun I have ever had with a Magic type card game. Since I am a huge Elder Scrolls fan, there is lots of nostalgia here. The android game is easy yet challanging, the dynamics are smooth, the rewards are well placed and the art work is attractive (but not cute, lol). There are really only two things the developers could improve on: 1. It is that it is a small difficult to learn how to build your decks, the 'help' feature for this is somewhat lacking. 2. The chat client could use some improvement.
i rated five stars 1. video test is awesome as well as addicting.2 graphics are top notch.3 who doesn't like the elderscrolls series.4 decks can be mixed together or you can make your own deck that suits your needs.5 don't forget to check out the fresh elderscolls mobile rpg i haven't tried it I'm sure it's as amazing as this one. con is that you to play the other down fall is that you have to invest a ton of on maps If you wish to hold playing and progress worth the but expensive
Fun android game unless you're facing the A.I. It blatantly cheats to victory in Solo arena if you didn't use a true entry pass. Definitely a to victory game... also to have more than an hour of items to do. Overall it's a amazing time assassin if you don't mind consistently losing for no other reason than an OP A.I. that doesn't like to lose.
downloaded and installed 👍 ready to go! Downloading in-app update... waiting... downloading in-app content... waiting updating assets... waiting... can't exit during hours of these updates or it halts the downloads. Finally obtain in, super-fun! but can't link my acc or sign in... jes*s f**king chr*st
I'll give it this... It's a attractive card game, simple to pick up and understand. YET when it takes over an hour to the assets to play 1 or 2 quest matches, it's ridiculous. No one has the patience to wait an entire day worth of downloading to play a couple matches, and if you do... I commend you. You have the patience of the Dali Lama. For myself, the infinite DL wait instantly killed my desire to give the android game my normal week before deciding to hold playing.
Edit: January 2019: Legends is amazing again! Thanks, 5 star!***25 September modernize ruined the game, which was unbelievable before. Graphics, animations and overall atmosphere is degraded. If possible, please give us the old Legends back! I really do not like this state of the android game now.
The android game is historically-accurate to the a lot of bits of lore in Tamriel. The android game itself is great, the mechanics an perfect blend of several card android games including Magic: the Gathering. I am having a lot of fun with the puzzles, something I havent done with a card android game since Yu-Gu-Oh! Nightmare in Troubadore for the DS. My only complaint is when sometimes I will drag a card out and it will play the card next to the one I picked, throwing my game. It's annoying but an simple fix, I think. Amazing job!
I hold having to reboot the android game when i am in the middle of a game. I randomly obtain kicked out of the android game the reboot to obtain back to my match but the load time is so long that most of the time my turn gets taken away and i dont obtain to play anything this is very upsetting i end up loseing the match do to that glich plz fix this
i had a amazing time even bought some cards but there is something i would like to see added a Sven card one where hes just normal Sven and hes just a 1 1 card that cost 1 mana and then there is a armored Sven card where he has the best steel armor on and a steel sword thay card would be like a 3 4 or 3 3 that cost 2 or 3 mana that would be the coolest to add i really hope to see that some day
Currently the android game is incomplete, once you finish the main story which can be done in three or four days, theres only a grind to 50. Additonally the top end gear can be crafted but to temper them takes an obscene amount of resources thats only optainable with hundreds of hours of wait time. I hope future updates improve this.
completely pay2win game. when it first fome out was good. aftet the first patch did a stealth nerf half ruined the game. just yesterday did another nerf patch that created android game impossible to play. simply you cannot slay the opponents and only yeild negative gold in abyss at end game. wait there is no end game. all it wants you is to and it secretly takes out anything amazing in patches. trash company going downhill every android game they release now.
There's lots to do but it comes at a high cost. Some materials are still tough to find. I hate seeing crystals as a currency because you know you're going to play the wait or android game but they do give you lots of opportunity to earn them in game. Quality of life improved greatly with the latest patch. It still has my attention.
Amazing game. But they really need to add an option to sign into an existing account. The android game wouldn't allow me sign into my old acc after accidently pressing the wrong button the first time after launching and it took Bethesda almost a week and numerous emails to fix this due to the horrific help and slow turnaround times.
The android game is nice but the A.I. is OP in the solo arena. In the Arena I had 98 health and the computer had 2. Still managed to lose because the computer somehow played cards every turn to stop me from winning. This happened on 3 various runs in the arena. I realize they wish people to to run the arena more often but it's easier to just unistall the android game and search something else when even an amazing deck (98 health on turn 8) just gets stalled out because the computer doesn't wish to lose.
They updated the graphics awhile back and ruined it for old players. My mates and I used to play it religiously before they butchered it. It is a really fun card android game even so. I started playing it again. If you're a fresh player I'm sure you will love it!
This is my favorite card game. It's quite enjoyable, as lots of the reviews here have said. Between planning in android games to customization creating decks and saving up for cards, The Elder Scrolls: Legends provides a fun experience for both spenders and those who don't spend money. :-) On a side note to the developers, after the patch the other day, the picture of my opponent's hero during the android game is a low resolution image. This is related to the pictures of the cards a couple updates ago.
Perfect ccg, really have fun the addition of the puzzles, always a fun method to try your knowledge on. Tad bit grindy but definitely possible to obtain what you wish through perseverance. Also I really like the nods to jokes in elder scroll games, such as the chicken card lol. Overall unbelievable game, if you're into ccgs definitely give it a go.
I must have played this a long time ago because when I downloaded it and tried playing it the other day i already had progress. I made an acc on the computer and was playing but idk how to link my steam acc from the computer to my phone. It doesn't give me the option to sign in anywhere. Will fix my review once I know how to sign in with my acc I been playing on the computer. I'm not starting over. I'm beautiful high in rank and levels. I'm not restarting.
Attractive card android game but massively to win. you obtain one storyline then have to $20 for each additional. You can get in android game to for them through vs but if you don't spend on the android game youu will be at significant disadvantage. This android game would be amazing of there was more content which would create me mote willing to spend money. This is greed at it's finest.
This doesn't feel like an Elder Scrolls android game anymore. It's *just* a card android game now. All the decks that I'm seeing (and use) are optimized card decks with small fidelity to the Elder Scrolls characters or universe. To create matters worse, I don't see how Isle of Madness could fix this.
this android game is AMAZING. if you like magic the gathering and yugioh, you can obtain into this. the ONLY thing keeping me from resting it a 5 star is the easy fact that it wants me to make a Bethesda acc but I already have one under both my emails and there is no method to sign up without creating one and cant do anything with a made one... just frustrating
this android game used to be hella fun but it wont even work now. it takes a while to load and but one it does it just gets stuck on a the screen where you normally play a card android game but all you cab do is slightly interact with the environment.
sorry guys. I love Bethesda, but their "never lose to rng" advertising is bs. I don't know how a lot of times I've lost a match due to a convenient prophecy card, or they have just the right amount of hurt to beat me and I'm one off. Also doesn't support that the computer's cards consistently feel stronger than my cards for the same cost.